Alright, you're ready to order a frame. What about wheels and cranks and stuff? You may have most of what you need, you may not. Thursday has contacts with distributors including J&B Importers, Bicycle Technologies International (BTI) and Tip Plus. Distributors are wholesalers, so the price Thursday gets from them is not much lower than what you can do through mail-order or on the internet. But if you need stuff and don't have it, Thursday will order it for you. Then there are framekits - that includes everything, soup to nuts, except for pedals and front fork. For that Thursday uses Security and BTI.
Then there is OE. That stands for original equipment and is a price point available only to manufacturers.OE pricing lets you price a frame-and-fork at cost that is in the ballpark with the majors. Thursday has OE agreements with a number of manufacturers. OE prices are great, but they are only available when you buy a frame. This is serious. A lot of manufacturers will "grey-market" lasts years OE, flooding the market with cut-price suspension forks, cranksets, etc. That's all on them and the manufacturers that let them get away with it. Thursday doesn't do that.
Pricing. Thursday marks stuff up. It's a hassle to buy it, it's a hassle to unpack it and make sure it's the right stuff, it's even a hassle to get rid of the packing material. This means that the distributor-supplied stuff will cost you somewhere between wholesale and what you would pay at the local bike shop. It's a toss-up. On OE, which is mainly big-ticket items, you get an add-on price that is pretty close to wholesale. You make out.
Then there is some stuff that Thursday stocks because it is so hard to come by otherwise. This includes the Thomson 29.8mm seatpost, which they only make up special order and no one in their right mind will stock. It makes sense to buy a seatpost with the frame, whether its the 29.8mm Thomson or a Kalloy copy in 30.2 mm for bikes with a butted seat tube. It also includes the Profile disk brake BMX hub and sliding derailleur hanger, and a basic wheelset for the 26" cruiser.
Most of Thursday's frames use a 1.25" (31.7 mm) seat tube. The best thing is to buy a seatpost with the frame. Frames with straight gauge seat tubes take a 29.8 mm post, while those with butted seat tubes get a 30.2 or 30.4 mm unit.
Thomson elite 29.8mm black, 440mm long. This is a straight post, not the layback model. Price (when you buy a frame): $60 Unfortunately Thomson doesn't make a 30.2mm post. Yet.
Origin8 Zoom/Thomson copy, silver, 30.4 mm, 440mm long. This looks like a Thomson but weighs a little more. However, it has stood up well to BMX and extreme use. Order this seatpost with a frame using a butted seat tube. Price with frame: $25 As of this time J&B has discontinued this post in 30.2. At this time (2010) I don't have a line on a decent 30.2 mm seatpost.
This is a big category. Thursday has last couple years been building forks for road bikes and "city bikes" like Je ne Regrette Rien. I couldn't resist the beautiful Pacenti twin plate fork crowns! They really look great and seem to hold up.
But for big hits and big air Thursday recommends a factory fork, whether it's a solid unit or a boinger. Pricing can vary - Thursday's OE forks can be a great deal. Or you can take your chances on the internet. In general, last year's mountain forks tend to get blown out or grey-marketed. The only specs that count in this regard is the fork's axle-to-crown dimension, and its rake or "offset." These dimensions may vary and Thursday's frames are all designed to a specific fork. Make sure of the spec before you grey-market or eBay a fork.
MOUNTAIN BIKE FORKS
Thursday has OE agreements in place with MRP (White Brothers) and Marzocchhi.
MRP (White Brothers Forks)
White Brothers cross country forks are the "Loop series"
White brothers extreme ride forks include the Stage series of 120mm travel forks in 26" 27.5" and 29" wheel sizes. These are offered with the "New Model" frame at a reasonable cost.
Thursday has an OE agreement with Marzocchi. If you order a Marzocchi anything with a frame, you will get a killer deal. The 4-X World Cup is a great fork with stiffness in reserve for truly sick riding. And it's only five pounds!
BMX and Dirt Jumping forks
having pretty good luck with SuperCross
- Bill Ryan don' build no junk.
The Supercross Pro fork is available with a frame at a $110 upcharge, painted to match. This is a little better than retail and saves you on shipping. We will also, on a special order basis get you any of the other great SuperX forks.
For the 26" Vida Loca cruiser, we are currently spec-ing the discontinued SuperX “Centerline” fork, or the current 26” Pro Fork. These are $110 painted to match. Bill will chrome a Pro Fork on special order. There are new Landing Gear forks being fabbed in Taiwan. Unfortunately they are longer than the OG Landing Gears and will throw off the geometry on the 26-er.
Thursday likes the MacNeil ID fork for dirt and street. Order the ID with your Black rain or Acid Rain frame for $110 extra.
again, I like SuperCross
- they are heat-treated light and strong. I keep the 26"
low-rise cruiser bars in stock and recommend them, with a solid BMX
stem for the "New Model" as well. Supercross has discontinued its 2.5 inc rise bars. Four inch rise is still available, and I have had OK results with low-rise downhill bike bars and a short stem like the Thomson. The Supercross bars sell for $60 with a
Trails used to make a great mountain wheelset. They were not cheap but
they stayed round a lot longer. Round is good!
Maybe they will get into it again. I hope.
Tires and Tubes: Thursday is a big fan of WTB tires. YMMV. Order WTB tires and tubes with your frame. Most tire/tube combos are under $30 per wheel when ordered with a frame, with or without a wheelset. WTB also makes a killer rim strip that fits their rims just right. A special deal for 26" BMX riders: a set of Nanoraptors or Vulpines, 6 decent tubes and a pair of WTB rim strips for $80. Should keep you going all season long.
4-X bike works with any good, fat tire. You may want a heavier tire
with stiff sidewalls, or a light, track-weight tire. WTB's Weirwolf
2.55 race is a pretty good, light tire.
The 4-X bike was really waiting for a tire that didn't exist yet: a light, fast-rolling 3-inch tire with a small block tread on the bottom and deep-block grabbers on the sides. Wait no more! Plus size tires are here. Word, forks that will accomodate a 3-inch tire are a little scarce as of yet. If you can find a Marzocchi Shiver SC that makes a pretty decent front end on the Four Cross or "New Model" bike.
Thursday's basic 26 inch cruiser wheelset. This includes plain vanilla Sun Rhyno Lite rims, J&B sealed bearing big body BMX hubs, and stainless 2.0 straight gauge spokes. This wheelset will run you $145 when ordered with a frame. Once the J&B hubs are gone, I'll have to jack this price.
ROAD BIKE WHEELS!!!! Thursday has gotten with Rolf Prima wheels for road wheels. They are super light, super strong, and MADE IN USA! Check them out on the Rapide. They contributed to its 17.5-pound build. Not cheap, but they last.
Profile BMX disk brake hub and wheelsets. Right now profile is the only manuafacturer that will make up a disk brake BMX hub. Their rear cassette hub is as good as it gets, and will mount a disk. They are a special-order item. This hub is $320 when purchased with a frame. Or you can order a wheelset, Profile hubs, a good welded rim and 2.0 DT or Sapim spokes, for $520.
We also have the Taiwan Kore disk brake 26” wheelset. This wheelset sells for $200 with Rhyno Lites and stainless
spokes, $240 with welded rims.
Something new! For a price, I can get the wheels tensioned at Velo Cult. Adam there does a killer job, the wheels are way stronger because of high and equal spoke tension. It's another $80 and I don't make a cent on it, but it's worth it.
Can I get a T-shirt? How about a jacket or some nice hucking pants? Thursday thinks about this, but hasn't got 'round to it yet. One project is a "Je ne Regrette Rien" beret ... will this stuff materialize? Eventually.
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